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For RI9403, please check KIT-GGX-EU. Re-attach the boiler with the four bolts, re-attach the steam wand, push on the steam knob, and put the lid assembly back on, without forgetting to re-connect the two ground wires. The only way to cut it is to unplug the machine. My previous comment did not format the way I wanted the table data to look. For the Classic Pro, this requires either shortening the spring in the OPV valve through trial and error, or ordering a spring kit from Mr. We bring fresh high-quality coffee to the masses. Chris, this is a far simpler way to add preinfusion. I have couple of concerns with this setup and would like to kindly ask for your opinion: 1. Hi Chris, I am gathering / ordering the parts specified and was surprised to find out the price for 3d printing price spiked. Hi Jun, and thanks for the update. Just use a multimeter to find the switched mains, and you should be able to follow the thermostat wires. I plan to do this shortly for my old gaggia classic. Do I got the kit with pre-infusion or just the standard one? I used P:2,4 I:40 D:10 and Souf:0.2 which gives a shot stability around 2 degrees for single, 4 degrees for double shots. That would be easy enough to verify with a multimeter, to see which thermostat is active in steam mode and which one is active in brew mode. Realized with your last comment you dont have the offset in place, my bad. Posted by 2 years ago. Thanks! I bought the same parts as you have reccomended in the article but have run into the issue that the thermocouple is too large to fit into the adapter (theyre approx the same OD). I still have one question you may be able to answer. Circuit diagram of Gaggia Classic with the KIT-GG connection. Its actually reading too high.. 98 deg against 92deg measured by both my oven thermometers. Thanks. When the steam switch is on, the PID stays on but because the boiler temperature in steam mode is much higher than the brew temperature of the PID, the PID provides no power to the SSR and heating element. There is definitely something weird going on. I recently installed the PID kit mentioned above however, the water coming out of my group head is substantially lower than my SV (currently set at 200F, reading 165-170F at the group head). Previous topic - Next topic. Hi, thanks for the articely, it was great help to do the initial steps. The operation is the same as the unmodified Gaggia machine. PID Modification by Auber Instruments' Customer. The preinfusion thing is a bit ridiculous, it just turns your pump on, off and on again. I have few questions for you about this setup. The rich body and complex flavor profile of a well-made shot brings the beans to life with a depth that other brewing methods fail to achieve. Hello again, I found out that connection I made was wrong. 0. This is the setup that I have assembled two days ago. I started with 103, and bumped it up to 105. You would need to put the boiler heater element between the controller terminals 2 and 3. (Available for download after purchasing the kit. I have read reports of measurements of up to 8 degrees C lower at the portafilter. 3-Connect the other cable to the terminal on the on off switch, which is on top of or below the Live cable. it works better than poor mans preinfusion described by wholelatte love & Lance in the youtube. great article !!!! Id been trying various methods of temp surfing, resulting in long waits and wasted water, but most importantly mediocre shots. For more than half a century, Gaggia has been supplying both coffee bars and homes with innovative, state-of-the-art coffee machines. Approach 2: Divert from my writeup by installing the thermocouple so that it replaces the steam thermostat, and set the PID temperature to your preferred steam temperature. Shades. Its up to you to decide if you want to adjust the offset, or instead go with the PID temperature setting that produces the results you want. 3: For owners of the Gaggia Classic ProRI9380 240Vversion, please check the installation guide "KIT-GG_Classic Pro US 120V_Installation". The A vs E should not make a difference as I am not using alarm function, and am using it with a 3-wire PT100. Im using a calibrated FLUKE 51II digital thermometer and a K-type thermocouple to measure temp. Thread in the M4 thermocouple adapter in the place of the thermostat. Thoughts & musings from a product developer and manager. Please see the compatible model list below (Note 1 on the bottom). The SSR is only rated for 5 amps. I placed the SSR toward the left side of the back panel if facing the front of the machine. I think this is why using a separate SSR and controller is the only way to go. Locked Topic . UNBLOCKING. Glad this writeup helped. Hi Kraken. This prompted me to look for alternate solutions. I have a 2012 and am wondering if you had success and if the wires are as described in the article. (I am not testifying to the quality of the shots! I dont bother with offset, once I have a temperature dialed in, it doesnt matter whether its measured at the boiler or offset for the group head. 0. I strongly suggest checking which switch terminal switches the mains. Note: I fully tested the PID, SSR and thermocouple on the workbench before final installation. I would like to use it for steaming ONLY. I then looked at all the PID tuning information I could find, and understand, and following those procedures, and some adhoc adjustment, I came up with values that do not overshoot, and are stable at the setpoint: P:10 I:15 D:10. It would be almost impossible for me to give you a complete list of the parts from Mr Shades that you will need, as it will depend on the PID and SSR models you order. After autotuning, my values are: See all. It is a really tight fit to get the REX C-100 PID inside the machine. My install went as smooth as I hoped all my wire colours and locations were identical to yours (Phewf). I am glad you got your setup working Murat. One question, Ever thought about adding a pre infusion feature? Main Output: SSR: Open circuit: 4V, Closed Circuit: 24V40mA DC Thank you very much if you find the time to answer me . You can get away with lighter gauge wire for the mains connection to the PID, as the PID draws very little current. While the steam switch is engaged, the PID serves to provide a temperature reading of the boiler, which is great, because you can use that temperature reading to time when to start steaming for maximum steam performance. Hi Eddie. New - Gaggia Classic Pro/2019 PID kit - 1/32DIN single display $135.30 SHIPPING: We load new stock of PIDs on a Sunday, and they sell out very quickly (often within a few hours). Thx, . My problem is, unlike Rancilio Sylvia, heating element of Gaggia Classic Pro seems impossible to connect without cutting cables. I used lamp cord for this. Auber Instruments PID Kit for Gaggia Classic. The PID, RTD sensor and SSR (20 Amps) are installed on Gaggia Classic Pro 2018+. Auber Forum. Posted by 4 years ago. Unlike the 7200 model, this one does not have SSR inside. hide. Awesome PID installation guide! Heres a picture of the screws I used, with screwdriver for scale: Great article and development, congrats! Some people have done this by replacing the water filler funnel and 3D printing a replacement cover. Inside the GC, all bets are off as to wire colors, aside from green for ground, and even then, I wouldnt assume anything. Does the wiring youve supplied automatically shut the PID unit off when you engage the steam switch? Maybe this will help? Hi Chris, Thanks for the info, D. Your experience further goes to show that there is no standardized wire color coding in the GCP, even though black is usually hot and white is neutral. Glad you got that sorted out. The default target temperature on the PID will almost certainly not be correct. Guys, there is mains voltage here. PID Kit for older plastic body Gaggia Classic. The best way to find is: 1-Connect one cable to the mains connector at the back where it is showing N sign meaning Neutral. Thanks! So I say go for it, but as Chris said, if you really dont feel comfortable with it, pass on the PID or try to find someone who can install it for you. Thanks! Pull the cover assembly off by pulling upwards, and disconnect the ground cables. As for your PID always remaining on, it looks like you wired it to the unswitched mains, instead of the switched power. I am flattered, but will have to pass. If you purchased the kit from our website, you can download the manual zip file from our website by one of the following methods: Note: It has been working flawless for the most part, but seen a few issues that havent seen before. The connector is on the back of the machine, where mains power is tapped with a piggyback connector and goes to the PID. Hi Chris, By doing this, the TC bead is pressed against the boiler housing at the point closest to the boiler water, and is assisted by the thermal transfer compound. Did you have to alter your thermocouple at all to get it to fit into the adapter, like removing the cap on the end or something? Thanks for putting it together, this has helped me a lot in figuring out most of my doubts with a PID project for a Gaggia. Good idea Chris. save. Hi Kez. I can do a more detailed writeup of what Ive done if anyone feels like helping me find out whats not working properly! Then use the cursor keys to select the digits to increase and decrease. In a properly wired North American outlet, the neutral wire is white, and the hot/load wire is black (ground is green). Theres also a M4 connected thermocouple wire on Amazon that arrived fast although it increased the whole cost compared to Bangood. This wont be enough for the boiler heating element. If its closed it takes longer for temperatures to drop, but still goes to 102 before the it power cycles. You can take a look at this discussion about offset in the Gaggia Classic: https://coffeeforums.co.uk/topic/53319-what-temp-offset-are-you-using-with-your-pid/. What you describe is pretty normal, except that I am a bit surprised that your steam drops temperature down to 102. Update:This kit is compatible with the latestGaggia Classic Pro (released in 2018/2019) models, including the regular model (RI9380, 120V or 240V) and the European model(RI9480, 240V). Rancilio SilviaPID. Im in North America btw. Gaggia Classic Seamless PID Upgrade. If anyone is 3d printing the enclosure and doesnt want to tape or otherwise attach it to the Gaggia, I have made these small hooks that can be glued on to the enclosure: https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:4938828. Without offset the range is between 109-159, still too low. But espresso is also among the more complicated ways to make coffee. The countdown extraction timer contains three segments: pre-infusion pulse (Tp), soak (Td), and brew (Tb). The listing shows both M3 and M4 options, and I typed the first one when I wrote the article. Heat the shrink tubing. I went with an insulated PT100. The little red collar shows the location. Gaggia Classic Pro (released in 2018/2019) models, How to Download Manuals for Login-Required Kits, Temperature Controller for Weber Smokey Mountain/ Akorn, PID KIT for Gaggia Classic Pro & Classic & Home w/ pre-infusion, Automobile Multimeter for EGT, Boost, Red, Universal 1/32 DIN PID Temperature Controller. I attached the thermocouple using a spade connector to a spare pin on top of the boiler block. Possibly not the optimal position but was really easy to install and I knew Id only be getting a relative indicative temperature anyway. Hi Chris, I completed the whole project both for brewing for PID and steaming via alarm. However, depending on the seller, some settings may need to be changed. Thank you for making it. The label on REX-C100 says that it is produced by RKC, Japan but you never know for sure :-). Auto-tuning PID cooling/heating control If you need to replace the PID controller, please contact us. I have found the exact PID unit which Mr Shades is using and purchased it beside the Rex C100 kit you mentioned above: I adjusted the calibration offset on the PID +5.5 degrees to read 212 degrees.Have you any suggestions of more accurately calibrating the PID and TC? Which one shall we buy? Submit. Ive seen the steaming power on the classic remains solid from 125C and up, anything below that results in mediocre steaming power, which makes me wonder if I just have an aftermarket part that shouldnt be on this machine, or is just signs of imminent failure. What is your coffee bean dark or light? Or buy a machine with a built-in PID. Was hoping to actually just install one of these: https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/264849127538 The pump is not wired in series with the Heating element so Im not sure what is causing this. Its one more thing to plug in, but the upside is that it would be electrically isolated from the Gaggia. I grabbed some screws from my parts bin, I took whatever I could find that was the same color as my filament, and that would fit the holes and hold reasonably well. I had to manually enable autotuning on my REX-C100 and i dont know if other values are screwed up or if its something else, since it really does seem like the boiler is getting power in bypass of whatever the PID is doing. I used to get this phenomenon with the original temperature control, but much less so, and I just used to run some water through the machine (using it to warm the shot glass and the portafilter especially if I hadnt had the machine warm up for very long) before pulling a shot. The SSR is just a fancy switch and it should only be turning on and off, so depending on how you measure you may not see current. I have to turn the set point on the PID down to about 85C to stop it boiling and getting steam and a great deal of sputter out of the portafilter. If so, any idea how it can be achieved? Spent some time playing with temps and pulling a lot of shots to dial it in and am very happy with the results. Select Your Mounting option. Net Weight: about 150g All other variables aside, once you get a temperature that gives you the results you want, you will be able to get those results again, and again. The image I used is wrong and confusing, and I have now updated it. I havent lowered brew pressure to 9 Bars yet so perhaps changing that would level out my pump pressures? Otherwise, it all works properly now. Users can also bypass the timer to use the switch on the machine for manually controlling the brewing process. Also some pids come with a built in relay. We ship every business day from our two warehouses located in Milton, Ontario and Calgary, Alberta. . Its no secret that the chassis of the Classic has extremely sharp edges. Im assuming it should be fine as well to use 18 awg wire to wire the mains connections to the PID, and between the heating element and the SSR? As the optimal brewing temperature is 90C to 96C depending on taste, this variance means the coffee can be over or under-extracted, or worse - variable. Thermocouple included: M6*1 thread , K type , 2m cable Once you are able use the PID temperature readout to determine exactly what the steam cycle is, you know when to start steaming for more or less endless steam. Please let us know if theres a way to show our gratitude if theres a charity or cause we can donate to for you putting this guide together. did the REX-100 require most of the default setting to be changed or is it similar to changing like shades PID or Auber PID. Fortunately, no damage done, and you can easily revert your changes. Because the PID runs on mains voltages, an enclosure is required. Remove the thermostat. I am glad you solved the problem, Murat. That controller is an interesting find. Hi Murat, 1. Hi Andrue. What you do get from the PID as per this guide in steam mode is the ability to see exactly what the temperature of the boiler is, so you can time your steaming to start during a heating cycle, which essentially gives you unlimited steam. Hi Jun. I have a question on the pid, it is normal for the brew light to blink (off and) while it stabilizes to the target temperature. I agree, the PID is a gamechanger. It will depend on the beans you use, and your palate. So there is more or less no concern about PID heat and the PID enclosure. Measured everything with multimeter, then realized that C100 doesnt get main while machine is on based on the lights. This way you are not losing any pressure via the solenoid valve, you are just reducing the initial pressure to the puck by venting some of it through the steam wand. Once warmed up, the recovery time is quick and the swing is fairly minimal. What you describe looks very much like the steam thermostat cycle. Even if that is the case, i dont have a clue as to why i would be in steam mode, since i didnt touch the steam mode button or its wires, i have already reverted my swap of the power switches wires (just from up to down on the same switch so that shouldnt have impacted anything) and ive validated that the rollback was correct with a multimeter. This is an extra piece of wire for the European model of Gaggia Classic Pro (RI9480, 230V) with an energy-saving module, which turns off the machine after about 20 min if not used). Wear a glove when reaching in from below, otherwise bloodletting is likely. Ill verify the cable, its one of the cables that came with the machine, so it could likely be the strands have slowly burned with time and just needs cutting and re-crimping, as you mention. Started by Rocky47. I am not surprised, Mr Shades runs an honest business, and those parts are being offered at low prices. Even with a perfect offset, you would also need to also take into account the temperature offset between the boiler and the portafilter. Thanks, David. Does anyone else have this kit? New to the forums, but I've been experimenting with espresso at home over the last year when my brother gifted me a used Gaggia Classic with an Auber PID. Hi Nitzan. I have not changed any of the P, I or D settings on my controller. Also noticed if you use the steam for the milk it takes a lot of time to go back down (10min) to the set temp(i do run water through the boiler to bring the temp down, but it floats at a higher temp for a bit), does the steam affect the PID calculation or dont I need to worry about it? Then use the left/right buttons to select the digits to increase and decrease, and the up/down buttons to change the digits. Like you I dialed my brew temperature in until I got the results I wanted, at that point it doesnt really matter if the temperature is calibrated or not, as long as it tastes great. If your connection is down to just a few strands, that will generate heat. gaggia classic pro pid installation guideAUBER PID for gaggia classic proThis is a walkthrough / guide on ins. I found that moving the boiler up and to the side allowed me to get to the thermostat from the bottom really easily vs. the top. Thanks again for the write up, Ill be playing around with temperature for the next week! You are right, its an M4 thread, not M3. The Classics over-pressure valve (OPV) is set to 14 bars, which is a pressure better suited to the use of pressurized portafilters. The thermocouple that I ordered fit into the threaded adapter without any modifications. $285.00. Trim, terminate and connect the wires you routed out the back of the Classic to the PID. I have noticed after PID installation that upper cup holder tray is getting quite hot during 8-10 min warm-up, which was not the case when I was using the original GCP setup. When I got my C100 the thermocouple was M6, i ended up buying an m4 brass bolt drilling it out, and inserting the thermo with some glue and heatshrink on it and it works like magic added some thermal paste. Hi Brian. The kit looks a lot like the one I ordered. on orders over $49. I am going into speculation mode here I wonder if your Gaggia came with the steam and brew thermostat positions reversed? Gaggia Classic Coffee Machine Modelo 3D TurboSquid 1036412. Pull off the steam knob and disconnect the steam wand. Chris thank you so much. Thanks. The most I can say is these work for me, and are probably not optimum. What is the intra-shot temperature fluctuation that you are seeing on your machine with your PID setup? LED display color. I am only using the Rex temporarily while working on a project with a Raspberry Pi (and the cost of the Rex was only a couple dollars when ordering the SSR), otherwise I would reprint the entire enclosure with the hooks built in. Contact. Hi Chris, Ive followed these instructions exactly (thank you for your thoroughness) except for how the mains were tapped: I moved the two wires terminating on the bottom of the power switch to the top, and tapped them (as per another guide). Thats what Auber and Shades use, although they make their own. Its stimulated a lot of interesting discussion! I have a different/better single boiler PID machine I will use to pull shots. Where did you place the SSR? 2: The add-on item option "extra wire defeating auto-off timer" is for the Gaggia Classic Pro European model (RI9480, 240V), which has the auto-turn-off timer feature. You can only buy them as spare parts. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AoZuYaDq5yc, Thanks Jeff, thats a great video. Ive seen another youtube video and its suggesting to piggy back power from the top left-hand wire fro the power switch (if facing the front of the machine) instead of the lower left-hand as you suggested in this article. Wire colors and positions seem to vary. See here for details. I completed the installation last night and like you it too me about 5 hours But this included cutting a hole in the case stainless steel case to mount the PID controller internally, and that was probably the most time-consuming and difficult thing. Hi Rusty. have you had any issues with the k type or have heard of this? Warning! Is this just a matter of adjusting the offset of the PID? Take your time, think it through, and be patient. I managed the brew side PID and digging in for the steaming side, using PID alarm function of my XMT 7100 unit. I am beginning to suspect that Gaggia created as many combinations of wiring configurations and colors as they made machines. Ive been having trouble steaming milk lately, and wonder if there might be something wrong with the thermostat in my machine, wiring problems extending to this as well, or the steam valve might finally be needing a replacement. Watching the steam temp with the PID is interesting (I know it has no effect on it, but it is cool to see how it reacts now) and it is definitely best practice to steam while its on its way up in temp, once it hits the set point it comes down for a while (mine settled around 130 before it started back up). The steam temperature controlallows the boiler temperature to be held at a tighter range during frothing. That is confusing. it does not matter if the bean is dark or light roast? You effectively would have two steam modes, one PID-controlled that replaces the brew mode, and one classic thermostat-controlled steam mode. The biggest problem was the fact that the brew water control did not work: the SSR was never switched on by the thermocouple output. Please be sensible and install a grommet anyway! Regardless of which thermocouple you choose to use, you will also need to factor in an offset no matter what thermocouple you use, and this is really based on your tastes. I 37 XMT720LCD . Since installing the modification, I get a huge amount of steam and spray coming out of the portafilter when I first operate the pump so much so, that it sprays all over the worktop around the machine! With this tight temperature control, you do not have to surf the temperature for frothing because the heater will kick on much sooner than the original thermostat. But it will require some dismantling of the work you have done. Its crazy. Thanks for the catch, I will correct the article. Auber Instruments PID Kit for Gaggia Classic. i set an upper an lower limit on alarms. -. When I say old, it is still unused new in the box. Users can see the boiler temperature on the PID controller directly and also easily adjust the brew water temperature to suit their own tastes. Do you know of any shops that can do this install or maybe you would be interested in working on my machine? European model Gaggia Classic 2015 (RI9403, 240V) is NOT compatible. And once you start considering adding in a power supply, you might as well go for a PID. What exactly is a mains-rated wire, and where would I find one? How do I ensure that Im tapping the neutral mains? Cross referencing with the with the manual confirmed that the stickers had been reversed. This does mean that you can only fill the water tank by pulling it out. It has a blue led not red like pictured.The kit works for 115 VAC and 240VAC. After the kit is installed, the standby brew watertemperaturecan be controlled to within 1 (F or C) accuracy. I'd like to increase the brew temp a couple of degrees but have no idea how to do this. Hello, I acquired and prepared all cables and SSR unit thanks to your well prepared title above. Visit store Contact. I was like WTF. 100% Positive Feedback. I would not try anything without checking first. Hi peeps, finally got all the bits n pieces to do the Pid, brew & steam mod on the gaggia, does anybody have any general instructions for putting this all together? The solution is PID control via means of an industrial temperature controller; this is a common modification amongst the Gaggia and Rancillio community. If not, can you think of any potential mistakes I made along the way? 5. Obviously the actual water temp will be different, but I can use this range to try and get a consistent temp when I pull a shot. D:10 and Souf:0.2 which gives a shot stability around 2 degrees for single, 4 degrees for single, auber pid kit gaggia classic! Auto-Tuning PID cooling/heating control if you had success and if the bean is or... 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